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Chris ([personal profile] nonethefewer) wrote2010-01-07 11:19 pm
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Some days, pesky shit irritates me.

Today, it's calling superior officers "sir", regardless of gender.

"But it's a good gender-neutral term to indicate respect towards your superior!"
"It's a gender-inherent term, you ignorant fuck."
"..."

Note: not a real conversation.  Despite my rants here, I try not to get violent during feminism-topicked discussions.

So today, default words (like "sir", or "gentlemen" (I've been reading military fic, shut up), or the like) that claim to be gender-neutral but oddly always seem to be male irritate me beyond reason.

[identity profile] the-xtina.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
I think the comparison doesn't work.  In one, you're trying to find an analogous term for women from one for men -- here, you got "ovaries", as a similar thing as "balls".  The problem as I see it is that "ovaries" doesn't have the same cultural weight and meaning as "balls", in that sort of context.  But, one must start somewhere, &c &c.

Whereas with things like actor/actress, someone appended a feminine suffix to make it specifically male/female.  (Interestingly, "actor" started out being regardless of gender.)  So it's not taking something that linguistically is the sole province of men and finding a way to expand it, it's restricting the original meaning to half the world, then making up a new word for the other half.

I may or may not be making sense.

Quasi-relatedly, why is it "actress", but not "poetess", which is also a word?  /rhetorical