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Chris ([personal profile] nonethefewer) wrote2010-01-07 11:19 pm
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Some days, pesky shit irritates me.

Today, it's calling superior officers "sir", regardless of gender.

"But it's a good gender-neutral term to indicate respect towards your superior!"
"It's a gender-inherent term, you ignorant fuck."
"..."

Note: not a real conversation.  Despite my rants here, I try not to get violent during feminism-topicked discussions.

So today, default words (like "sir", or "gentlemen" (I've been reading military fic, shut up), or the like) that claim to be gender-neutral but oddly always seem to be male irritate me beyond reason.

[identity profile] antayla.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
That's fine, us girls can start calling all superior officers "Ma'am." (Or even the more formal "Madam.") We see how respected they feel THEN.
Edited 2010-01-08 08:14 (UTC)

[identity profile] perich.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I had a similar discussion with a friend earlier this week. We were casting a play, and I said that only this one candidate "had the ovaries to pull that role off."

She looked at me.

"I would have said, 'had the balls to pull it off,'" I explained, "but I thought it'd be demeaning. 'Oh, congratulations ma'am, you have presence and confidence. You've been promoted to Male status.' So I say, 'she has the ovaries to pull it off.'"

"I'm with you," she explained, "but I find creating gender-specific terms demeaning, too. Like the word 'actress,' which is a female version of the 'actor'."

"Hmm."

So now I'm curious to what other people think.

[identity profile] rachel-swirsky.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Gender-neutral? Gender-inherent? Come on, you guys know what I mean. :-P