nonethefewer: (advice)
Chris ([personal profile] nonethefewer) wrote2008-11-17 09:23 am
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"ITS" IS A VALID WORD.

Argh.

While I'm thinking of it:

Phase, noun - a stage in a process.  "It's just a phase she's going through."

Faze, verb - to daunt, to disconcert.  "I was unfazed by this information."

[identity profile] novalis.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, the English rule on its/it's is totally arbitrary.

[identity profile] amaebi.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
You question its validity? (Or should I ask about "its"s validity?)

[identity profile] mcsnee.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it isn't.

Possessive third-person pronouns: "his," "hers," "its." None have apostrophes.

Third-person contractions with "is": "he's," "she's," "it's." All have apostrophes.

[identity profile] mcsnee.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You know I love you, right?

[identity profile] bernmarx.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
To follow-up on mcsnee...

People get confused because of the rule for possession in English: Add 's to NOUNS (unless it's a plural ending in -s, in which case just add '). The problem is, "it" is not a noun, it's a pronoun, and pronouns in English are inflected for case:

I/me/my/mine
You/you/your/yours
He/him/his/his
She/her/her/hers
It/it/its/its
We/us/our/ours
They/them/their/theirs

The inflection is somewhat arbitrary, but the rule isn't: "Its" is the possessive inflection of "it" and "It's" is the contraction of "it is" or "it has."

The only way "it's" could be a possessive is if you're referring to an object which is properly referred to as "it" (for intance, if there were a band called It, then you could refer to It's new album).

From my LJ a few months back...

[identity profile] bernmarx.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone fond of picking nits,
I'm quite annoyed at misspelled its.

Apostrophes won't make me frown
When marking nouns that own a noun;

And when it is is what you mean,
Well, then, it's is the proper scene.

But it's no noun, this fact I give:
No, rather, its is genitive.

-- ptk 071508

[identity profile] jrthro.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It's incredible how often people say "phase" when they mean "faze," so I thank you for explaining the difference.

[identity profile] jrthro.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not even slightly arbitrary, let alone totally arbitrary, as others have explained.

[identity profile] xoder.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why I have a "fuck you speak english" tag.

[identity profile] novalis.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
What I meant was not that there was no rule, but that the rule difference between pronouns and general nouns is fairly arbitrary. It gains nothing in clarity, but much in pain.

[identity profile] bernmarx.livejournal.com 2008-11-17 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed, it's a vestige of an erstwhile robust case system.

[identity profile] palmir.livejournal.com 2008-11-18 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
If you were on Star Trek you could be unphased (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Next_Phase).